Since listening to Krishnamurti in the 70’s, a lot has shifted, and the essence of his message is available through many living people. There is less of an aura of ‘specialness’ these days – representatives for this would be Paul Hedderman, Sailor Bob Adamson and Tony Parsons, for example, and there are so many more, including very young ones, such as Paul Smit, Lisa Cairns and others. You will find that the pointers to freedom have become even more radical and direct. For a more gentle guidance, Francis Lucille and Rupert Spira may be preferred by some who have not recognized the fact that their identification with a separate person is maintained by a mental activity, called ‘believing.’
Being
Wave and Ocean
Identification with the wave before accurate realization: I am disconnected from a (theoretical) ocean and other waves are too. This is based on belief.
Identification with the wave with accurate realizing: There is ocean that includes all waving. This is based on no-belief.
Is Awakening a Process?
Today I was thinking about the question if awakening is a process or not. Awakening reveals timelessness, with no beginning and no end. And it reveals that this is what we are.
Some people sense this fact and others don’t. Some get frequently a taste of it in varying degrees of clarity, depending the degree of identification with a conceptual, separate entity. ‘Process’ is not applicable to the term ‘awakening’ itself, only to the reducing degrees of identification with a limited, apparently separate me.
If the identification drops suddenly, then the process is instant. In most cases, clarity and frequency of ‘no identification’ increases over apparent time until it is seen to be totally normal.
Purnamidah Purnamidam
(in response to a statement about the possibility of being complacently ‘full with yourself’):
in Sanaskit they have a saying ‘Purnamadah Purnamidam,’ meaning ‘That (the absolute) is fullness and This (its expression – still the absolute but appearing as if relative) is fullness.” The assumption that here is lack – caused by a seemingly independent and frustrated mind – needs to be questioned. In my opinion, fullness (greatness) has nothing to do with particular actions. The recognition that the ocean appears as waves restores the sense of this ‘double’-fullness which is none other than Love, the love of being and living from being. The absolute is full of itself. You can’t be full with other than yourself as other doesn’t exist. Only if thought claims this fullness it becomes what you call ‘full of itself’ in a complacent way, thereby preventing further investigation into the actuality of purnamidah-purnamidam.
Rupert Spira: Contribution
Comment (Dietrich):
The beauty of what is being said is radically unconditional to the extent where it is being rejected by the conditioned mind. It is easy for the conditioned mind to relate to apparently pleasant events as divine expressions. The challenge for the unexamined, conditioned mind is that unpleasant events are divine expressions as well. Realising this activates pleasant events and reduces unpleasant events, whereas ignoring this (or resisting this invitation to realize this) activates more unpleasant events – all happening within the same, undivided life. It’s one of the rules, set by consciousness. To ‘contribute’ means to live from this realisation as it warrants both absence of lack and occurrence of more pleasantness. The focus is neither on ‘contributing’ nor on ‘pleasantness.’ The focus is simply on ‘what is happening’ rather than what should happen.
Thoughts can’t see truth
The nature of any belief is blind. Seeing truth does not involve thought. T… is a seeker and is, like all of us, entitled to express what is felt to be relevant. I have no issues with people whose thoughts suggest to them that they are right. Thoughts are very powerful in the dreamworld of beliefs. Nonduality can’t be discovered by applying beliefs, no matter how ‘deep’ they seem to go. All beliefs are old. The old can never see what is untouched by memory. Thought doesn’t want to know about this because it would mean that it admits its impotence in any of its attempts to see truth. They are just ephemeral noise in the clear sky of timelessness.
(Reply to a YouTube comment)
Paul Hedderman
Emotions after Awakening
This is a comment on a video:
The main point is that after awakening there is the underlying, all-pervading sense that whatever has appeared and is appearing is not resisted by any belief that it should not have happened or should not happen. Even if there is an apparent short-term mental/emotional resistance to a condition (health-related, environmental, economical, political – you name it) it is still pervaded by the underlying sense of okayness. Some would call it universal love. Natalie’s statement can easily be misunderstood. I also think that this okayness will, as a rule, increasingly infiltrate old habits related to old self-concerns, mellow them down, and NOT increase them.
The inhibiting ‘filter’ (Natalie), consisting of the do’s and dont’s of an approval dependent, imagined person, may not be there anymore, and therefore any emotions can flow more freely, but this filter has been replaced by this unconditional boundlessness, okayness or unconditional love. This is a fundamental difference, compared to the situation before awakening. It is fulfilling, and therefore it spontaneously deletes the imagined dependence on limied sources of satisfaction. Emotions that are related to an assumed need to be satisfied by circumstances will decline accordingly, including Natalie’s.
Preferences for soothing circumstances will always remain, but the assumed need (dependence) is no more.
No Escape
There a two aspects we can’t escape from: One is life itself as a whole, the other one is life’s momentary expressions, including our ‘personal,’ unique momentary expressions. Each expression – by the time we think about it – has already happened, and is therefore unchangeable. We can’t think about it at the time it is happening – only afterwards. Of course, that particular happening – the ‘thinking afterwards’ – is also an expression we can’t escape after it has already happened.
Naturally, thoughts happen like any other event, and naturally thoughts are made of the same stuff everything else is made of, namely no-thingness. Even the belief into past and future are made of the same. Seeing this, all is essentially equal in value and substance.
Therefore I recommend to forget about thoughts that attempt to escape life in any way. Life as all can’t be escaped from. This includes life’s current expression though our mind-body apparatus as each of our particular expressions has already happened by the time we think about it. Once we fully experience the unity between life and its current, momentary expression, a sense of freedom from worry comes with it. It’s the letting go of mental, futile attemps to disagree with what has already happened. Consequently, our actions are not based on beliefs that life should have been different. In a later article I will prove that such actions are more likely to be constructive rather than destructive.
